Loading ...Chipper Out Tonight
Written by Rue on May 15, 2008 – 6:45 pmWe’re in Philadelphia again tonight for the final game of the series. Tonight I’d like to see something different – something like finishing as strong as we start. The biggest obstacle we’ll have is not having Chipper Jones on the field. He’s out for the night with a sore groin which started bothering him during his last at-bat last night. At this point in the season, only two other batters in history have had an average of over .400. Chipper will be sorely missed in this clutch series finale.
Games one and two of the series have proven to be somewhat of a disappointment. After another one-run loss on Monday after a strong 3-0 start, the Braves barely held on last night after a huge lead as the Phillies rallied at the end of the game. This is not something that needs to continue. If we can play .500 ball on the road and play at home like we have been, the Braves will start to look a lot like a 1995 team. Certainly after a strong start like last night, morale couldn’t have been low. Maybe we settled in and got a bit too comfortable.
Tonight, Chuck James (2-2, 7.58) faces Cole Hamels (4-3, 3.36). James pitched six innings on Saturday in Pittsburgh, but allowed five earned runs on five hits to gain his second loss. His second win was against the Marlins in late April where he allowed two runs in five innings until a two run home run. Whereas this is not a very impressive statistic, James has a lot to prove as he was called up originally to replace Glavine while he was on the disabled list.
Watch for strikeouts from Hamel tonight. He struck out 11 batters in Milwaukee in late April, and it was his 8th double-digit strikeout night. He also has walked three or fewer batters in his last eight starts. The Braves will need to be sure to keep their bats alive.
The Braves will be back in Atlanta tomorrow night facing the A’s.
Tags: Chipper Jones, Chuck James, Cole Hamels, Philadelphia Phillies
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By Jonathan on May 15, 2008 | Reply
It’s no good having Chipper out. We need all the offense we can get right now on the road and he’s the only consistency we have right now it seems. Here’s the lineup:
1 – Escobar – SS
2 – Infante – 3B
3 – Francoeur – RF
4 – Teixeira – 1B
5 – McCann – C
6 – Diaz – LF
7 – Kotsay – CF
8 – Gotay – 2B
9 – James – P
The 2B and 3B spots scare me a little as far as defense is concerned. Infante will hold his own though as a utility man.
By Jonathan on May 15, 2008 | Reply
First pitch . . . let’s go!
By Jonathan on May 15, 2008 | Reply
Top 1st:
- Escobar grounds out to short. 1 out.
- Infante drops a single into short right.
- Francoeur flies out to right. 2 out.
- Teixeira strikes out swinging. 3 out.
Frenchie needs to show some patience!
By Rue Grant on May 15, 2008 | Reply
give ruben a shot.
actually, i don’t care. but yes, i’m scared too. kelly suck it up too much to be in the lineup?
By Jonathan on May 15, 2008 | Reply
i think he must be hurting . . . he’s lost a lot of time to infante lately and now gotay.
By Rue Grant on May 15, 2008 | Reply
good. he should be benched. he is a disgrace to the number 2.
By Jonathan on May 15, 2008 | Reply
Bottom 1st:
- Rollins singles hard to left.
- Victorino pops out to short. 1 out.
- Rollins steals second.
- Utley draws a full count walk.
- Howard walks. Bases loaded.
- Burrell pops out to short. 2 out.
- Werth lines out to short. 3 out.
I don’t know how Chuck got out of that mess.
By Jonathan on May 15, 2008 | Reply
Don’t let Susan hear you say that
just because you wear the number 2 and are better is no reason to . . . wait, yes it is.
By joe on May 15, 2008 | Reply
hope we can get the bats going in the 2nd. we need james to go aleast 5 tonight.
By Rue Grant on May 15, 2008 | Reply
i’m not better, i’m just more consistent. at least i suck all the time and just not 4/5 of the time. then you have people who watch a “sexy” kelly johnson play one stellar game less than 20% of the time and they say “oh but he’s really on right now.” bullshit. give it a game, he’ll suck again. we all have good days and bad days. especially as athletes. about 20% of my runs are good runs. that certainly doesn’t mean they should put me in the olympics.
By Jonathan on May 15, 2008 | Reply
haha, but your team makes you look like a superstar
By Jonathan on May 15, 2008 | Reply
Top 2nd:
- McCann grounds out to second. 1 out.
- Diaz grounds out to third. 2 out.
- Kotsay grounds out back to Hamels. 3 out.
Not much to show for offense there.
By Rue Grant on May 15, 2008 | Reply
yes. and my team is exceptionally consistent too. even more consistent than the nationals.
By Jonathan on May 15, 2008 | Reply
Bottom 2nd:
- Feliz with a first pitch solo homer.
1-0 Phillies.
By Jonathan on May 15, 2008 | Reply
So the Phillies apparently have the most lame system for getting the pitch speed. There’s a guy sitting in the second row with a radar gun and a walkie talkie.
By Rue Grant on May 15, 2008 | Reply
hahah. they’re resourceful, not lame.
so i bet chipper is sitting there thinking “my goodness they need me….”
By Jonathan on May 15, 2008 | Reply
Bottom 2nd, cont:
- Coste walks.
- Hamels bunts, Infante throws to second to get the lead runner. 1 out.
- Rollins singles up the middle.
- Victorino hits into the 6-4-3 double play. 2 out.
Only a solo shot. We can avoid this damage forever.
By Jonathan on May 15, 2008 | Reply
Top 3rd:
- Gotay grounds out to second. 1 out.
- James strikes out swinging. 2 out.
- Escobar strikes out swinging. 3 out.
Two 1-2-3 innings in a row for Hamels.
By Rue Grant on May 15, 2008 | Reply
i told you to watch out for those strikeouts!
where are travis, susan and brandon?
By Jonathan on May 15, 2008 | Reply
I don’t know where they are . . . I know Brandon was lurking around at the beginning of the game, but I don’t know.
By Jonathan on May 15, 2008 | Reply
And I’m trying to get JB to come hang out . . . but he won’t because the Office is on tonight . . . at 9. I still haven’t figured this one out.
By Jonathan on May 15, 2008 | Reply
Bottom 3rd:
- Utley pops out to McCann in foul territory. 1 out.
- Howard crushes the hell out of the ball to dead center. Solo homer.
2-0 Phillies.
By Rue Grant on May 15, 2008 | Reply
i do. he won’t be able to pull himself away from the game. i will pull myself away at 9 for grey.
By Jonathan on May 15, 2008 | Reply
i’m recording grey and lost . . . baseball is more important
By Jonathan on May 15, 2008 | Reply
Bottom 3rd, cont:
- Burrell walks.
- Burrell down to second on a wild pitch.
- Werth flies out to center. 2 out.
- Feliz hits one off the top of the wall for a single. Burrell scores.
- Coste flies out to center. 3 out.
3-0 Phillies……sigh
By Rue Grant on May 15, 2008 | Reply
maybe they’ll pull a braves and start to fall apart during the rest of the game.
By Jonathan on May 15, 2008 | Reply
Top 4th:
- Infante grounds out to third. 1 out.
- Francoeur flies out to right. 2 out.
- Tex lines out to first. 3 out.
Wow we have no offense.
By Rue Grant on May 15, 2008 | Reply
THIS is why JB and HB aren’t tuned in.
By Jonathan on May 15, 2008 | Reply
Yeah, pretty much . . . JB says dinner with the in-laws.
By Travis on May 15, 2008 | Reply
hey hows it going
By Jonathan on May 15, 2008 | Reply
Bottom 4th:
- Hamels grounds out to third. 1 out.
- Rollins walks.
- Victorino homers to left.
5-0 Phillies.
I don’t see us losing by one tonight at this rate.
By Jonathan on May 15, 2008 | Reply
Hey Travis . . . it’s going alright for me. Not so much for the Braves. How are you?
By Travis on May 15, 2008 | Reply
good got off work early today and im off tommorow cause we are rained out so i can go to my friends graduation
By JB in ATL on May 15, 2008 | Reply
I’m here RUE!
By JB in ATL on May 15, 2008 | Reply
I’m not fairweatherererer……. er
But Chuck James pulls his famous walk a guy and give up a homer.
By Jonathan on May 15, 2008 | Reply
Bottom 4th, cont:
- Utley grounds out to second. 2 out.
- Howard grounds out to third. 3 out.
So how long are we leaving the batting practice pitcher in?
By Jonathan on May 15, 2008 | Reply
Man, that’s a lot of errrrrs
By JB in ATL on May 15, 2008 | Reply
Mark Redman
Albie Lopez
Chuck James
By Jonathan on May 15, 2008 | Reply
Top 5th:
- McCann flies out to center. 1 out.
- Diaz strikes out swinging. 2 out.
- Kotsay flies out to right. 3 out.
1-2-3 . . . . again.
By Jonathan on May 15, 2008 | Reply
I like the list, JB. Sounds about right to me. I couldn’t stand Redman.
By JB in ATL on May 15, 2008 | Reply
Diaz has his rally beard going. Maybe he won’t shave until he gets a hit.
By Jonathan on May 15, 2008 | Reply
Or at least until he makes contact?
By JB in ATL on May 15, 2008 | Reply
So Rue says “Where’s JB?” and goes AWOL?
By Rue Grant on May 15, 2008 | Reply
i’m here. i’m just figuring out my ipod. i hate this “one computer sync” bullcrap.
By Jonathan on May 15, 2008 | Reply
But you do like your ipod……….right?
By Travis on May 15, 2008 | Reply
the braves are gonna have to find a way to win on the road
By JB in ATL on May 15, 2008 | Reply
Rue,
There’s a trick to getting around that whole iPod thing. Maybe I’ll help you some day.
By JB in ATL on May 15, 2008 | Reply
you don’t have to sync it to add music basically
By Rue Grant on May 15, 2008 | Reply
yeah i love the ipod. i still don’t know how to turn it off though.
By Rue Grant on May 15, 2008 | Reply
we need an auto-refresh function on this site.
By Travis on May 15, 2008 | Reply
i think the braves need to go out and trade for a another veteran starting pitcher that is good because i dont think hampton is gonna pitch this year
By Jonathan on May 15, 2008 | Reply
Campillo in to pitch.
Bottom 5th:
- Burrell strikes out. 1 out.
- Werth singles.
- Feliz grounds into a double play. 3 out.
Top 6th:
- Gotay flies out to center. 1 out.
- Blanco singles.
- Escobar flies out to right. 2 out.
- Infante flies out to left. 3 out.
By Rue Grant on May 15, 2008 | Reply
“you’ve just witnessed mike hampton’s last strikeout” – Jonathan at spring training… EVERY time he pitched a strikeout.
By JB in ATL on May 15, 2008 | Reply
Here’s some quick iPod tips for you, Rue.
If you want to add music from another computer without syncing…when opening iTunes and going to the iPod screen, select “Manually Manage Music and Video”. Then you can just click and drag media onto it.
Also, to turn it off, hold down on the “play” arrow until the screen goes out. To reset it hold down “Menu” and the middle button.
How’s that for blogging during a Chuck James game?
By Jonathan on May 15, 2008 | Reply
To turn it off, press and hold the play button for like 2 or 3 seconds.
By Rue Grant on May 15, 2008 | Reply
this is more interesting than a chuck james game.
By Jonathan on May 15, 2008 | Reply
I’m very proud of my Mike Hampton quote.
By Jonathan on May 15, 2008 | Reply
Nice throw for Diaz . . . for once.
By JB in ATL on May 15, 2008 | Reply
Mike Hampton is like social security
By Jonathan on May 15, 2008 | Reply
Haha, yes . . . I’m still waiting for that post. Has it evolved beyond a subject yet?
By Jonathan on May 15, 2008 | Reply
Bottom 6th:
- Coste doubles.
- Hamels singles. Coste to third.
- Rollins flies out to left. Diaz throws Coste out at home. 2 out.
- Victorino grounds out to second. 3 out.
By JB in ATL on May 15, 2008 | Reply
I just don’t think i can get farther than my analogy.
What more can you say without repeating all that’s been said about Hampton.
By Jonathan on May 15, 2008 | Reply
Yeah, it’s like beating a dead horse…..a dead horse that can still pitch better than Hampton.
By Jonathan on May 15, 2008 | Reply
Top 7th:
- Francoeur flies out to right. 1 out.
- Teixeira grounds out to third. 2 out.
- McCann doubles to left.
- Diaz flies out to right. 3 out.
Hamels is pretty much dominating the Braves right now.
By Travis on May 15, 2008 | Reply
So do yall think smoltz will be as dominant of a closer as he was before it he becomes the closer
By Jonathan on May 15, 2008 | Reply
So I was in the Clubhouse store in the CNN Center this afternoon . . . they had Resop, Ohman and Bennett jerseys on the clearance rack….and a Mike Hampton autographed poster and baseball on sale for $5.
By Jonathan on May 15, 2008 | Reply
I’m pretty sure he will be the closer and I think he can continue to dominate in the role. I’d much rather see him there than Manny. My big worry is whether or not the team can put him in save positions.
By Travis on May 15, 2008 | Reply
yeah that seems to be a big problem rigth now
By Rue Grant on May 15, 2008 | Reply
travis you should go read grant mcauley’s analysis of smoltz as a closer. it’s really thorough.
http://grantmc.mlblogs.com
the beating the dead horse thing makes me sad these days. oh kentucky derby.
By Jonathan on May 15, 2008 | Reply
Joe and Jon seem pretty bored tonight….
By Rue Grant on May 15, 2008 | Reply
you know, somehow i sang the entirety of “my old kentucky home” at the derby. i don’t know how i managed, but i think bourbon had a helping hand.
By Jonathan on May 15, 2008 | Reply
ok…it’s like beating a dead rat.
By Jonathan on May 15, 2008 | Reply
so did you actually sing it, or did you sing what you think the whole thing is?
By Jonathan on May 15, 2008 | Reply
Bottom 7th:
- Utley pops out to third. 1 out.
- Howard strikes out swinging. 2 out.
- Burrell singles to right.
- Werth singles to short. Burrell to second.
- Feliz flies out to left. 3 out.
Campillo holding strong.
By Rue Grant on May 15, 2008 | Reply
sure as hell i didn’t sing it! the only words i know are “in my old kentucky home” and that’s just one more word than the title.
By Jonathan on May 15, 2008 | Reply
hahaha . . . nice. That’s more than I know though. I don’t know how the song even goes.
By Jonathan on May 15, 2008 | Reply
Top 8th:
- Greg Norton walks.
- Gotay flies out to center. 1 out.
- Blanco strikes out swinging. 2 out.
- Escobar walks. Norton to second.
- Infante grounds into a force at second. 3 out.
By Jonathan on May 15, 2008 | Reply
Stupid thursday night television shows . . . now I’m here talking to myself.
By Jonathan on May 15, 2008 | Reply
Bottom 8th:
- Coste grounds out to short. 1 out.
- Hamels singles to short left.
- Rollins flies out to center. 2 out.
- Victorino grounds into a force out at second. 3 out.
By Jonathan on May 15, 2008 | Reply
Top 9th:
- Francoeur with an infield single to third.
- Tex grounds into the 6-4-3 double play. Great play by Rollins. 2 out.
- McCann strikes out swinging. 3 out.
Complete game for Hamels. First time in his major league career.
By Susan on May 15, 2008 | Reply
Hey! I just read all the trash talk about #2….kelly rocks my world and that’s all that matters.
What’s the score?
By Jonathan on May 15, 2008 | Reply
Haha….I knew you’d read it eventually.
We lost 5-0.
By Travis on May 15, 2008 | Reply
well this wasnt a crappy game i the braves have to start winning on the road
By Travis on May 15, 2008 | Reply
i meant that was a crappy game
By Susan on May 15, 2008 | Reply
Ouch….See, we need Kelly. And I guess Chipper too….
By Jonathan on May 15, 2008 | Reply
6-16 on the road now, Travis…I feel your pain.
By Jonathan on May 15, 2008 | Reply
We need offense . . . of some sort. We always do poorly without Chipper in though.
By Travis on May 15, 2008 | Reply
yeah and texeira is gonna have to start hitting the braves are a better team than the way they are playing
By Rue Grant on May 15, 2008 | Reply
yeah, we need kelly to play for the phillies!
By Travis on May 15, 2008 | Reply
i dont know about that
By Susan on May 15, 2008 | Reply
Anyone headed to Turner Field this weekend?
By Jonathan on May 15, 2008 | Reply
I’ll be there, Susan….how about you? We’re celebrating Rue’s birthday at the game on Saturday.
By Travis on May 15, 2008 | Reply
i wish i lived in atlanta were i could go to some of the braves games
By Susan on May 15, 2008 | Reply
Definitely Friday. Not sure about Saturday. It should be fun!
By Jonathan on May 15, 2008 | Reply
I don’t know about Friday for me yet….I have a lot of cleaning to do. Sunday?
By Jonathan on May 15, 2008 | Reply
You can always move here, Travis….. that’s always my solution for people.
By Travis on May 15, 2008 | Reply
lol yeah but im small town guy im not sure i can handle living in a big city i like the country life to much the town i live in has like 4000 people
By Susan on May 15, 2008 | Reply
Cleaning? On a Friday? I hope that’s not normal.
Can’t make it to the game on Sunday.
By Jonathan on May 15, 2008 | Reply
I think my neighborhood has about 4000 people
Nah, cleaning in general isn’t normal for me….just ask Rue. I’m just trying to get my extra bedroom presentable for guests.
By Jonathan on Feb 2, 2009 | Reply
It's no good having Chipper out. We need all the offense we can get right now on the road and he's the only consistency we have right now it seems. Here's the lineup:
1 – Escobar – SS
2 – Infante – 3B
3 – Francoeur – RF
4 – Teixeira – 1B
5 – McCann – C
6 – Diaz – LF
7 – Kotsay – CF
8 – Gotay – 2B
9 – James – P
The 2B and 3B spots scare me a little as far as defense is concerned. Infante will hold his own though as a utility man.
By Jonathan on Feb 2, 2009 | Reply
First pitch . . . let's go!
By Rue Grant on Feb 2, 2009 | Reply
give ruben a shot.
actually, i don't care. but yes, i'm scared too. kelly suck it up too much to be in the lineup?
By Jonathan on Feb 2, 2009 | Reply
i think he must be hurting . . . he's lost a lot of time to infante lately and now gotay.
By Jonathan on Feb 2, 2009 | Reply
Bottom 1st:
- Rollins singles hard to left.
- Victorino pops out to short. 1 out.
- Rollins steals second.
- Utley draws a full count walk.
- Howard walks. Bases loaded.
- Burrell pops out to short. 2 out.
- Werth lines out to short. 3 out.
I don't know how Chuck got out of that mess.
By Jonathan on Feb 2, 2009 | Reply
Don't let Susan hear you say that
just because you wear the number 2 and are better is no reason to . . . wait, yes it is.
By Rue Grant on Feb 2, 2009 | Reply
i'm not better, i'm just more consistent. at least i suck all the time and just not 4/5 of the time. then you have people who watch a "sexy" kelly johnson play one stellar game less than 20% of the time and they say "oh but he's really on right now." bullshit. give it a game, he'll suck again. we all have good days and bad days. especially as athletes. about 20% of my runs are good runs. that certainly doesn't mean they should put me in the olympics.
By Jonathan on Feb 2, 2009 | Reply
So the Phillies apparently have the most lame system for getting the pitch speed. There's a guy sitting in the second row with a radar gun and a walkie talkie.
By Rue Grant on Feb 2, 2009 | Reply
hahah. they're resourceful, not lame.
so i bet chipper is sitting there thinking "my goodness they need me…."
By Jonathan on Feb 2, 2009 | Reply
I don't know where they are . . . I know Brandon was lurking around at the beginning of the game, but I don't know.
By Jonathan on Feb 2, 2009 | Reply
And I'm trying to get JB to come hang out . . . but he won't because the Office is on tonight . . . at 9. I still haven't figured this one out.
By Rue Grant on Feb 2, 2009 | Reply
i do. he won't be able to pull himself away from the game. i will pull myself away at 9 for grey.
By Jonathan on Feb 2, 2009 | Reply
i'm recording grey and lost . . . baseball is more important
By Rue Grant on Feb 2, 2009 | Reply
maybe they'll pull a braves and start to fall apart during the rest of the game.
By Rue Grant on Feb 2, 2009 | Reply
THIS is why JB and HB aren't tuned in.
By Jonathan on Feb 2, 2009 | Reply
Bottom 4th:
- Hamels grounds out to third. 1 out.
- Rollins walks.
- Victorino homers to left.
5-0 Phillies.
I don't see us losing by one tonight at this rate.
By Jonathan on Feb 2, 2009 | Reply
Hey Travis . . . it's going alright for me. Not so much for the Braves. How are you?
By JB in ATL on Feb 2, 2009 | Reply
I'm here RUE!
By JB in ATL on Feb 2, 2009 | Reply
I'm not fairweatherererer……. er
But Chuck James pulls his famous walk a guy and give up a homer.
By Jonathan on Feb 2, 2009 | Reply
Man, that's a lot of errrrrs
By Jonathan on Feb 2, 2009 | Reply
I like the list, JB. Sounds about right to me. I couldn't stand Redman.
By JB in ATL on Feb 2, 2009 | Reply
Diaz has his rally beard going. Maybe he won't shave until he gets a hit.
By JB in ATL on Feb 2, 2009 | Reply
So Rue says "Where's JB?" and goes AWOL?
By Rue Grant on Feb 2, 2009 | Reply
i'm here. i'm just figuring out my ipod. i hate this "one computer sync" bullcrap.
By JB in ATL on Feb 2, 2009 | Reply
Rue,
There's a trick to getting around that whole iPod thing. Maybe I'll help you some day.
By JB in ATL on Feb 2, 2009 | Reply
you don't have to sync it to add music basically
By Rue Grant on Feb 2, 2009 | Reply
yeah i love the ipod. i still don't know how to turn it off though.
By Rue Grant on Feb 2, 2009 | Reply
"you've just witnessed mike hampton's last strikeout" – Jonathan at spring training… EVERY time he pitched a strikeout.
By JB in ATL on Feb 2, 2009 | Reply
Here's some quick iPod tips for you, Rue.
If you want to add music from another computer without syncing…when opening iTunes and going to the iPod screen, select "Manually Manage Music and Video". Then you can just click and drag media onto it.
Also, to turn it off, hold down on the "play" arrow until the screen goes out. To reset it hold down "Menu" and the middle button.
How's that for blogging during a Chuck James game?
By Jonathan on Feb 2, 2009 | Reply
I'm very proud of my Mike Hampton quote.
By Jonathan on Feb 2, 2009 | Reply
Haha, yes . . . I'm still waiting for that post. Has it evolved beyond a subject yet?
By JB in ATL on Feb 2, 2009 | Reply
I just don't think i can get farther than my analogy.
What more can you say without repeating all that's been said about Hampton.
By Jonathan on Feb 2, 2009 | Reply
Yeah, it's like beating a dead horse…..a dead horse that can still pitch better than Hampton.
By Jonathan on Feb 2, 2009 | Reply
I'm pretty sure he will be the closer and I think he can continue to dominate in the role. I'd much rather see him there than Manny. My big worry is whether or not the team can put him in save positions.
By Rue Grant on Feb 2, 2009 | Reply
travis you should go read grant mcauley's analysis of smoltz as a closer. it's really thorough.
http://grantmc.mlblogs.com
the beating the dead horse thing makes me sad these days. oh kentucky derby.
By Rue Grant on Feb 2, 2009 | Reply
you know, somehow i sang the entirety of "my old kentucky home" at the derby. i don't know how i managed, but i think bourbon had a helping hand.
By Jonathan on Feb 2, 2009 | Reply
ok…it's like beating a dead rat.
By Rue Grant on Feb 2, 2009 | Reply
sure as hell i didn't sing it! the only words i know are "in my old kentucky home" and that's just one more word than the title.
By Jonathan on Feb 2, 2009 | Reply
hahaha . . . nice. That's more than I know though. I don't know how the song even goes.
By Jonathan on Feb 2, 2009 | Reply
Stupid thursday night television shows . . . now I'm here talking to myself.
By Susan on Feb 2, 2009 | Reply
Hey! I just read all the trash talk about #2….kelly rocks my world and that's all that matters.
What's the score?
By Jonathan on Feb 2, 2009 | Reply
Haha….I knew you'd read it eventually.
We lost 5-0.
By Jonathan on Feb 2, 2009 | Reply
I'll be there, Susan….how about you? We're celebrating Rue's birthday at the game on Saturday.
By Jonathan on Feb 2, 2009 | Reply
I don't know about Friday for me yet….I have a lot of cleaning to do. Sunday?
By Jonathan on Feb 2, 2009 | Reply
You can always move here, Travis….. that's always my solution for people.
By Susan on Feb 2, 2009 | Reply
Cleaning? On a Friday? I hope that's not normal.
Can't make it to the game on Sunday.
By Jonathan on Feb 2, 2009 | Reply
I think my neighborhood has about 4000 people
Nah, cleaning in general isn't normal for me….just ask Rue. I'm just trying to get my extra bedroom presentable for guests.